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The Origins of Gaspe Fisherman Jean Baptiste Anglehart/Migkelhardt | Hessian mercenary? American Loyalist? | Dominique Ritchot

– voir en bas pour le texte originale en francais –

A few weeks ago noted Quebec researcher Dominique Ritchot saw some of my posts about Jean Baptiste Anglehart and was kind enough to provide some information about this early Quebec settler of German origin. Today I’m very pleased to offer this information because it comes from such a credible source.  For those who aren’t familiar with her, Ritchot is the archivist and a  researcher over at  Fichier Origine. Fichier Origine is a special project  of the Societe Genealogique  and consists of an online index of those founding couples of Quebec who are of French origin with a focus on their French families of origin. She’s also a published author (e.g. genealogical journal Memoires) and administrator of

http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/r/ritchot.html/.

However what will interest anyone with Quebec German ancestors is that Ritchot is also the administrator of the RootsWeb:Mailing Lists – QUEBEC-HESSIANS which is ” for anyone with a genealogical interest in the settlement of Hessian soldiers in Quebec, Canada, after the American Revolution”. Most recently she has translated the Virginia Easley-DeMarce book “The Settlement of Former German Auxiliary Troops in Canada” which should be available this winter en francais! Click on the link for further information.


Guest Post  – Dominique Ritchot

(Note: Original text in French follows. This is a loose translation!)

According to his marriage certificate, Jean-Baptiste Anglehart came from Germany. He was the first of his line to arrive in the Gaspe (Quebec).

Some researchers suggest that his mother was Amerindian (Native American) but this is doubtful since she didn’t come to Canada. This hypothesis is based on the sound of her surname. However, it must be pointed out that  in some German  regions it was traditional to feminize the surnames of families with the ending “ine”.  In the case of Jean-Baptiste Anglehart, Marie-Anne Kaw becomes Marie-Anne Kawine.

Returning to Jean-Baptiste Anglehart, the first mention of his presence in Canada is his marriage certificate.

I know of two soldiers from the German auxiliary troops who carry this surname. These troups came to defend Canada from the U.S.A. at the time of the American War of Independance.

ENGELHARDT, Bernhardt:

Brunswick, 1st Troop Transport, Ehrenkrook Battalion, Schlagenteuffel Company; founded in the 5th canton of Quinté  Bay(Ontario) on October 5th, 1784.

ENGELHARDT,Wilhelm:

Brunswick, Specht Regiment ; deserted in1781, final destiny unknown.

Nevertheless, we must avoid hasty conclusions in connecting either of these soldiers with Jean Baptiste Anglehart, Gaspesian fisherman who married Anne Chapados (Jean & Catherine Laroche) on July 12th, 1798 in Paspebiac. Jean Baptiste Anglehart could also have arrived with the contingent of Loyalists who settled down in the  Baie des Chaleurs a further line of research would be to check the Lower Canada land grant requests as these might yield further information.

D. Ritchot – Son Texte Originale

“Selon son acte de mariage, Jean-Baptiste Anglehart est originaire d’Allemagne. C’est lui le premier ancêtre arrivé en Gaspésie.

Quelques sites de chercheurs suggérent que la mère du migrant serait Amérindienne, mais comme elle n’est pas venue au Canada, on peut douter de la véracité de cette suggestion. Cette hypothèse vient de la consonnance de son patronyme.

Il faut savoir que selon la tradition en vigueur dans certaines provinces germaniques, les patronymes sont féminisés avec la finale en « ine ». Dans le cas de Jean-Baptiste Anglehardt : Marie-Anne Kaw devient «Kawine ».

Pour en revenir à Jean-Baptiste Anglehart, la première mention de sa présence est son acte de mariage.

J’ai deux soldats portant ce patronyme dans ma base des troupes auxiliaires allemandes venues défendre

le Canada lors de la Guerre de l’indépendance américaine :

ENGELHARDT, Bernhardt : Brunswick, 1er transport de troupes, bataillon Ehrenkrook, compagnie Schlagenteuffel ; établi dans le 5ème canton de la baie de Quinté (Ontario) au 4 octobre 1784.

ENGELHARDT, Wilhelm : Brunswick, régiment Specht ; déserteur en 1781, dont la destinée demeure inconnue.

Cependant, il faut éviter de faire des rapprochements hâtifs avec ces soldats et notre Jean-Baptiste Anglehart, pêcheur en Gaspésie, marié le 13 juillet 1787 à Paspébiac avec Anne Chapados (Jean & Catherine Laroche).

Il pourrait tout aussi bien être arrivé avec le contingent des Loyalistes qui se sont établis dans la Baie des Chaleurs.

Une recherche dans les Pétitions de demandes de terres au Bas-Canada pourrait peut-être nous en dire plus”.

Related Posts:

Joseph Anglehart/Migkelharte and Marie Anelkawine (Family Tree: Gaspe to Gloucester)

Marriage Record – Migkelhart /Chapadeau– 1787, Paspebiac (Gaspe, Quebec)

Marriage Record – Angleharte/Huard – 1826, Paspebiac (Gaspe, Quebec)

Comments from a descendant – Brigitte Anglehardt

Robin Jones & Whitman Fishing. Paspebiac, Gaspe, Quebec

My Migkelhardt connection through Eveline Melvina Luce



FYI: Please check messages from Maurice Anglehart in comment boxes below.



January 16, 2010 - Posted by | . | ,

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  1. Apparently, I am also a descendant of Jean-Baptiste Anglehart/Migkelharte – a connection our family did not know about before last December (2009). In fact,until then, we did not know that about half of my father’s heritage was French-Canadian!

    Anyway, I found your posts and have noted the suggestion that his mother’s name might be Marie-Anne Kawine. In searching the Family Search records I did not see any family names show up as Kaw or Kawine (that I remember). Since the French priests were probably spelling phonetically, I’ve wondered if her last name wasn’t a variant of Kuhlwein (possibly with the umlauts over the u), or Kuehlwein. I didn’t find her listed as such in the available records (which are limited), but there were several such family listings in the birth and marriage records.

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    Comment by Robert Engelhardt | February 7, 2010 | Reply

    • Interesting conjecture, Robert. I’m going to forward your comments directly to researcher Dominique Ritchot and we’ll see what she has to say.
      Evelyn

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      Comment by evelynyvonnetheriault | February 7, 2010 | Reply

  2. On what basis is it concluded that J-B’s wife “didn’t come to Canada?”
    Hypothesis: She was already here. J-B had taken up with her & might not even have had a marriage ceremony to make the union official. This happened with the French, why not with the Prussian soldiers?
    There is a Marie Stibre in my ancestry & it appears she was the d. of a Hessian and an Anglehart
    ….

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    Comment by R Pouliot | February 26, 2010 | Reply

    • Hello,
      Thank you for your comment.
      I believe that D.Ritchot will note your comment and respond, but if not then I’ll forward your comment to her.
      Evelyn

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      Comment by evelynyvonnetheriault | February 26, 2010 | Reply

  3. Jacques Anglehart & Anastasie Huard were my great-great grand parents; Jacques Anglehart & Florence Peaudemarthe were my great grand parents; and Antoine Anglehart & Marie-Louise Cyr were my grand parents.

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    Comment by Maurice Anglehart | April 30, 2010 | Reply

    • Somewhere (http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca) I ran across a lineage for the descendants of Jacques Anglehart and Anastasie Huard to Jacques Anglehart & Florence Peaudemarthe then to Philippe Anglehart & Rose-Anna Daraiche and their children. Posted there was a picture of Philippe and his son Michel Anglehart (when elderly). What struck me was the surprising similarity in their pictures and those of my father at similar ages. The closest common ancestor is Jean-Baptiste Anglehart and Anne Chappados.

      My paternal grandfather was Joseph Xavier Engelhardt (various spellings for his last name). His parents were George Anglehart (var. sp.) and Elizabeth Roy. George’s parents were Joseph Benjamin Anglehart and Marie Ann Leblanc. His parents were Benjamin Joseph Anglehart and Theotiste Dionne. Benjamin Joseph was Jacques’ brother.

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      Comment by Robert Engelhardt | April 30, 2010 | Reply

  4. I’am from l’Anse-aux-Gascons, Gaspé peninsula, Québec.
    Mr Gerald Brotherton is now working on the genealogy tree of the Anglehart, from Jean-Baptiste & Anne Chapados of Paspebiac. To help him out, everyone should send me by E-Mail all the information you have; that way, our book could be ready by this summer. Once the book ready, we are planning to organize a family reunion of all the ENGELHARDT and Anglehart having roots from Paspebiac in 1783.
    maurice.anglehart@hotmail.com

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    Comment by Maurice Anglehart | May 2, 2010 | Reply

    • I’m originally from Campbellton New Brunswick, now living in Ontario. I’m also working on the Englehart / Anglehart family tree, and my ancestors go back to Jean Baptist & Anne Chapados. Please send me an email and I will share my information.

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      Comment by Michael (Mike) Kenneth Englehart | December 4, 2011 | Reply

      • My g-grandfather George Anglehart and his family lived in Campbellton, NB in the late 1800s before moving to Salem, Mass. His father, Joseph Benjamin, lived there until his death. If you are interested in exchanging information, my email address is engelhardt2_nospam_charter.net (replace _nospam_ with @).

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        Comment by Robert Engelhardt | December 4, 2011 | Reply

  5. Samedi, 17 juillet prochain, à 15h00, au Centre multifonctionnel de Gascons, en Gaspésie, M Gérald Brotherton lancera son livre sur la généalogie des Anglehart. Tous les Anglehart, Engelhardt, Englehart, Inglehart, et familles associées sont invités. Vous pourrez vous procurer le livre sur place pour 25$CDN.
    A good information for Robert Lee Englehardt, Your great-grand father Benjamin Anglehart died in Saint-Godefroi, Gaspe peninsula, in july 1888, at the age of 87 years, 10 months, 8 days; he had a son Eugene who was the mayor of Canton de Hope for 27 years. They are both buried in the cemetary of Saint-godefroi. You still have a cousin who lives there: Edouard the son of Eugene, he is now 80 years old; I talked with him yesterday.

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    Comment by Maurice Anglehart | July 7, 2010 | Reply

  6. We are descended through Daniel Smith’s 2nd(?) wife, not through his Anglehart spouse.
    We wonder if the same sources used for this book may be of use to our research..
    What sources other than Virginia deMarce, Patrice Gallant, & Bona Arsenault were used and is a list of sources to be found in the book?
    Regards

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    Comment by R Pouliot | July 17, 2010 | Reply

  7. Sources: Patrice Gallant, Bona Arsenault, Cécile Bouchard-Lévesque, Elaine Réhel, Réjean Martel, et les familles Anglehart de Gascons et des paroisses avoisinante.
    Note: Could Marie Annelkawine be: Marie Anne Kilwein?
    A reference to Mary Kilwein’ will can be found on internet.
    Could Jean Pauldemarthe be Jean-Paul DeMarthe?

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    Comment by Maurice Anglehart | July 19, 2010 | Reply

  8. I am Richard Anglehart sixty years old Living in st-eustache quebec, Mr father Camille anglehart he is eight-five years old, his father was John Anglehart who was born in Gaspe quebec canada in thew late eighteen hundred. /we are decendants of Jean Baptiste Anglehart/Migkelhardt

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    Comment by Richard anglehart | October 24, 2012 | Reply

  9. My brother recently had DNA testing done (by 23andMe) that I thought might be of interest to descendants of Jean Baptiste Anglehart, as we believe that our paternal line descends from him. The Y-DNA testing showed that he (we) are part of the R1b1b2a1a1d* haplogroup. What little information I’ve seen about this, indicates a common male ancestor with this subgroup branching off about 3000 years ago.

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    Comment by Robert Engelhardt | January 27, 2013 | Reply

  10. Bonjours Je suis Donald Jeannotte-Anglehart et je suis très intéressé d’en apprendre si non de suivre vos recherche sur la famille de ma mère fille de Pierre Anglehart et de Georgette Trépanier.

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    Comment by Donald Jeannotte-Anglehart | July 16, 2013 | Reply


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