Carlos Taveira contacted me recently to let me know that the French-language launch of a new documentary about Pedro da Silva will take place in Laval on January 26th, 2014. Those planning to attend are asked to R.S.V.P. by January 10th. Bill Moniz (the producer) and Francine Dassylva will both be present at the screening. Carlos Taveira contributed his research (which will be published as a book) for Bill Moniz’ project.
You can find further information here – Pedro Da Silva, premier courrier de la Nouvelle-France | Facebook. Whether or not you can attend, you may wish to “like” the Facebook group or this post so that the word gets out to others in the family history community 🙂
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I am hoping you might be able to help me. I also live in Montreal and am working on my own family history. Pierre (Pedro) Da Silva is my great grandfather (11 times). I have looked through many of the Drouin records (on ancestry.ca) for his marriage to Jeanne Greslon dite La Violette in 1677, but can’t find the specific record. I’ve looked through Château-Richer, Beauport, Québec Notre-Dame and cannot find any mention. Would you be able to direct me to the right place?
In my database I have the following sources:
Click on – Dictionnaire genealogique – Volume 1, 1608-1700, Dictionnaire, D, page 158 D’AR – DAU
2. Drouin Dictionnaire National des Canadiens Francais, page 342,
My Drouin research was done in pre-computer times from the hard copy index, and the online Drouin Index – as you’ve probably noticed – contains many mis-spellings for the Dasilva name (e.g. Decilva). My suggestion is to check your library index to see the Drouin spelling and then check back again at Ancestry.
3. The marriage information in my database is:
16 May 1677 L’Ange Guardien – Quebec.
Information from researcher D. Ritchot
The marriage record of Pierre DaSylva dit Le Portuguais & Jeanne Greslon dit Laviolette can’t be found on the L’Ange Gardien parish register or any other parish registers of New France. They were married before P. Vachon, notary, May 16, 1677. The contract is available at the Archives nationales du Quebec (ANQ) on microfilm. I can check at my local genealogical library to see if a transcription is available.
Note: Another post contains links to places to contact Dominique Ritchot online.
An M-line is a lineage built by beginning with a woman and tracing her line back mother-to-mother. As a result, the surname changes with each generation. This is a big trend right now, especially with the advent of genetic genealogy which allows both men (through their mothers) and women to trace their bloodlines through their mtDNA.
Eveline Melvina Luce’s M-Line
First Named Generation
Marguerite Caplan m. Francois Larocque
About 1729 – Acadie
Catherine Larocque m. Jean Chapados
1750 –Gaspesie, Quebec
Anne Chapados m. Jean Baptiste Anglehart
1787 – Gaspesie, Quebec
Marie Anglehart m. Alexandre Huard
1826 – Gaspesie, Quebec
Marie Huard m. Paul Hypolite Blais
1849 – Gaspesie, Quebec
Marie Blais m. Clement Desilva
1871 – Gloucester, New Brunswick
Clementine Desylva m. George H. Luce
1896 – Gloucester, New Brunswick
Eveline Melvina Luce m. Adelard Lagace
1924 – Gloucester, New Brunswick
Ninth, Tenth, Eleventh Generations
This marriage of George Lewis (son of Philippe Luce and Anne Ward) and Clementine Desilva (daughter of Clement Dassylva and Marie Blais) took place on November 8th, 1896 in St-Urbain Parish in Lameque (Gloucester, New Brunswick). George’s father Philippe Luce was already dead.
Official witnesses – Thomas Desilva and Marie Lewis.
Father Doucet officiated.
Surname var.: Desilva, Dasilva, da Silva, Dassylva & Lewis, Luce, Lusse
In 2003 Canada Post wanted to celebrate the contributions that Portuguese Canadians had made to the country and they chose to do this by highlighting the work of Pedro da Silva, 18th century immigrant to New France.
Here’s an extract from the Canada Post ” … Based on the 1681 census, da Silva had settled with his family in Beauport, Quebec where he worked as a common carrier. He later moved to Sault-au-Matelot in Quebec City’s lower town, and became involved with the shipping of goods. His proximity to the St. Lawrence River gave da Silva easy access to the ships off-loading goods for delivery within Quebec City and the colony. It is believed that da Silva built a good reputation for transporting goods, packages and letters by offering delivery in all seasons, even the harsh winters ….. da Silva received a letter of commission signed by Jacques Raudot, Intendant of New France, bestowing on him the duty of ‘first courier’ in Canada. He also received permission to carry letters “… from private persons to their address and to bring back the replies…” It was da Silva’s punctuality, “…diligence and loyalty…” that earned him the privilege of being a ‘regular messenger’ of goods as well as royal dispatches and those of the Governor General of New France between Quebec City and Trois-Rivières or Montreal.”
Surname var.: Dasilva, Dassylva, Desilva
This is the burial record of the founder of our Desilva line, whose descendant Clementine Desilva married into our Luce line. Pedro Dassylva was known by many names including: Pedro/Pierre, da Silva/Dassilva/Dassylva/Desilva.
According to this document, Pierre Dassylva the Portuguese (aged about 70 years) was buried in the Quebec city Notre Dame parish cemetery on August 25th, 1717 after having received the sacraments of the church. His wife Jeanne Greslon / Laviolettte died some time later.
This is the original marriage record of Clement Dassylva (son of Thomas Dassylva and Anastasie Savard) to Marie Blais (daughter of Paul Hypolite Blais and Marie Huard) on November 23rd, 1850 in Grande-Riviere (Perce) in Gaspe, Quebec. Father Saucier officiated. Witnesses at their marriage were Clement’s father Clement Dassylva and Joseph Beaudin a friend of the bride.
These are our Desilvas who left the Gaspe, moved to Miscou and became Golda Lagace‘s great-grandparents through Clementine Desilva.
Surname var.: Da Silva, Dasilva, Dasylva, Desilva, le Portuguais
1. Joseph Da Silva was born in 1621 in St-Julien, Lisbon, Portugal. Joseph and his wife Marie Francois were the parents of Pedro Desilva – the founder of our Canadian branch of Desilvas. (+2 M i. ) Pedro Da Silva (hereafter called Pierre dit le Portugais Desilva / Dassylva Portugais) was born in 1647 in Lisbon, Portugal and died in 1717 in Quebec City, Canada.
2. Pierre dit le Portugais Desilva / Dassylva Portugais (Joseph 1) was born in 1647 in Portugal and died in 1717 in Quebec City. Pierre married Jeanne Greslon / Laviolette on 16 May 1677 in L’Ange-Guardien (Beaupre), Quebec. She was the daughter of Jacques Greslon/Laviolette and Jeanne Vigneault. Jeanne was born on 9 Feb 1663 in Chateau-Richer, Montmorency, Quebec, Canada. After Dasilva’s death, Jeanne Greslon married Jacques Morand in Quebec, Canada.
Children from the marriage of Pierre and Jeanne:
+3 M i. Jean Marie Desilva / Dassylva Portugais I was born in 1704 in Quebec. +4 F ii. Louise Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1681 in Beauport, Quebec. + 5 F iii. Madeleine Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1682 in Quebec and died in 1756 in Charlesbourg, Quebec. +6 F iv. Elizabeth Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1687 in Quebec and died in 1760 in Quebec. 7 F v. Jeanne Catherine Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1688 and died in 1689. She never married and had no children . +8 M vi. Pierre Desilva / Dassylva Portugais I was born in 1690 in Quebec and died in 1715 in Quebec. + 9 M vii. Jean Baptiste Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1692 in Quebec . 10 F viii. Anne (a) Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1694. Whe was never married and had no children. + 11 F ix. Anne (b) Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1695 in Quebec and died in 1732 in Quebec. 12 M x. Francois Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1697 in Quebec. 13 M xi. Pierre Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1698 in Quebec, Canada and died in 1703 in Quebec City. He never married and had no children 14 F xii. Jeanne Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born on 14 Feb 17003 and was buried on 17 Jan 1703.She never married and had no children. + 15 M xiii. Dominique Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1702 in Quebec and died after 1747 in Quebec. + 16 M xiv. Jean Baptiste Marie Desilva / Dassylva Portugais was born in 1706 in Quebec. + 17 M xv. Nicolas Desilva / Dassylva Portugais I was born in 1698 in Quebec and died in 1761 in Quebec.
Descendants of Jean Luce and Elizabeth of Channel Islands
1. Jean Luce I was born in 1726 in Jersey Channel Islands and died after 1756. According to Stephane Luce (see sources) Jean’s parents were Edouard Luce and Marie Le Cras who were married in St-Lawrence (Channel Islands) and his grandparents were Edouard Luce and Izebel Piquot. Jean’s grandparents were married in St-Lawrence in 1691. Their children included: Mathieu, Denise, Edouard, Judith, Elizabeth, Susanne and Thomas.
Jean married Elizabeth (Luce?) on 10 Oct 1753 in St-Lawrence Jersey Channel Islands. Elizabeth was born about 1730 in Jersey Channel Islands and died after 1756.
A child from this marriage was:
+ 2 M i. Jean Luce II who was born in 1756 in Bailiwick of Jersey Channel Islands and died after 1794.
2. Jean Luce II (Jean 1) was born in 1756 in Bailiwick of Jersey Channel Islands and died after 1794. Jean married Susanne LeGros on 20 Apr 1776 in St-Lawrence Jersey Channel Islands, daughter of George LeGros and Marie Godel. Susanne was born about 1756 in Bailiwick of Jersey Channel Islands and died after 1794.
Children from this marriage were:
+ 3 M i. Elie Luce I who was born on 1 Apr 1792 in St-Lawrence Jersey Channel Islands and died in 1854.
4 M ii. Jean Luce III who was born on 10 Nov 1776 in Bailiwick of Jersey Channel Islands.
Cemetery: New Holy Family Location: West Bathurst, Gloucester, New Brunswick
IN MEMORY OF
1906 – 1976
1. Eveline’s parents were George H. Luce and Clementine Desilva.
2. Adelard Lagace and Eveline Luce were married on May 27th, 1924 in Gloucester, New Brunswick. Ref: RS141B7 Index to New Brunswick Marriages: Number 1826 Ref B4/1924 Microfilm F19685
3. This couple had 14 children. Most descendants now live in Quebec.
The Canadian Family Database holds information on almost 20,000 individuals of Acadian and French-Canadian descent. A Canadian Family, Photo Archives has hundreds of cemetery headstones. For more information leave a comment below and I’ll get back to you as soon as possible.